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Re:Barcelona: Absolutes 2007/11/09 14:37  


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Re:Barcelona: Absolutes 2007/11/09 15:34  
Wow, there are a lot of thoughts and feelings running through my head right now as I read this string of the review of the band.

Several things should be said to the manager… such as what kind of manager are you… aren’t you supposed to be helping your band… but going off and being down right curel to a reviewer isn’t the way to do it. Do you think if you strong arm her she will bend and re-write the review to a more positive light to the band Barcelona?

I am a writer and editor for many different publications. Writing isn’t easy to do, especially if you do not like your subject matter. I think the review was tastefully done considering Mrs.Dunn did not fall in love with the band. That is her right and her opinion… will it hurt sales, probably not as much as your outburst will… I know I was going to give them a shot despite the review but not now… not with your outlandishness.

You not only made yourself look like a fool, but you made your band look like one too… NICE JOB buddy! (oh I know your name really isn’t buddy – that is just an expression. Wouldn’t want you to think I wasn’t fact checking.)

I agree, the writing world is fast passed and occasionally when going through edits, people (editors) change things that they think are right and ends up making a huge mistake… that’s life – deal with it.

As for something Mrs.Dunn said, that she is not writing for Infuze anymore… I surely hope that this wasn’t the result of this review. Because clearly that would be bad for the magazine to do. I mean what kind of publication would let a writer go because they are clearly doing a job (unpaid?) to do. If that is the case, I believe Infuze owes Mrs.Dunn an apology.

I would clearly not let go of any of my writers if they brought attention to the publication. Good or bad publicity is publicity. So it wasn’t a review in positive light – many are not… perhaps you don’t read reviews in Billboard or Rolling Stone… I would say it is a 50/50 split between love and hate. That’s the world Gentleman… everyone can’t love everything. It would be a boring world if we did.

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Re:Barcelona: Absolutes 2007/11/13 19:12  
Obviously Mary's best friend or someone got on here to write. And to say you're a writer and then use the phrase "the world is fast passed" when you meant "fast paced" only shows a few things I don't even need to say.

http://www.stereosubversion.com/album-reviews/barcelona-absolutes/

That's the review we posted and it's a negative one. But the writer is good. And that's the difference.

I don't understand the whole "sticking up for your own" comment. If a writer is bad, they shouldn't be writing. It was a bad review. It doesn't matter whether or not the music is liked or not, a writer should be held to the same standards as the artist.

Check your facts. Do the work. Spend the time. Then write the article. And do so in an excellence manner. And if you can't do all of these, then you shouldn't be doing it.

If a writer sucks, then they shouldn't write. And they shouldn't be allowed to write if someone has the power to keep bad things from being printed. A record label should be punished with low sales for putting out poor product. A grocery store shouldn't be able to move moldy bread and so on...

I sincerely doubt someone randomly changed names in the review as an editor. And I doubt there were 30 people listening to it or that weeks were spent crying and sobbing over how to write this. Either way, it's clear that Mary shouldn't be reviewing any music of any kind. And perhaps there are other fields that she write compentently in and this is just a good way of finding that out.
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Re:Barcelona: Absolutes 2007/11/13 19:27  
Um, actually I am a writer and an editor. I don’t need to justify myself to you. But I will.
If you need to see a list of things I have written and published in I will gladly show them to you.

I also did my own little check on the internet – and when I searched the band Barcelona – I noticed another band came up and the name JUSTIN was actually in it… Perhaps whoever did the edit did that same thing. However I don’t know since I don’t work for this pristine publication. So actually yes I believe that that is possible.

I suppose you don’t make any mistakes, that you are perfect? I should be so honored to be getting a response from you? That sort of thing?

As for the “sticking up for my own” business… well it goes beyond the sticking up for her because she is a writer. I don’t care if someone is the worst writer in the world; I would stick up for them when someone else is trying to make them look like a fool in a public forum. Belittling someone is not cool – I don’t go for that one bit and yes, I will stick up for someone that is being made a fool. There is a time and place for everything. This was not the place publicly criticize someone (in that tone) for a review. It was done purely to be mean.

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Re:Barcelona: Absolutes 2007/11/13 19:50  
Boy for a "man of God", I think you need to go back to theology school.

Why do you wish to be so abusive to me is beyond my understanding, however, you are man, and I am woman, so by Christian standards, you are superior.

The editor changed the article and I can post what I sent in. I think their is a moral issue here that needs addressed and Andrew should gain some "balls" and come forward. I sure would have, but after all it is only Mary that is getting discredited in this avenue. So I suppose that doesn't matter. Right?

The day will come Matt. I will not judge you. To say I should not be writing about music...maybe I just happen to know more than you and it bothers you.

Fess up man, that band sucks and you know it. Don't try to pull that crap on me that I don't know what I am talking about.

The moment the first note hit, it sucked. They play chords and the words, well you would have to be as intelligent as you obviously are to understand them.

Your actions here speak louder than my words ever will. You need to turn to your Bible and quit being such an idiot.
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Re:Barcelona: Absolutes 2007/11/14 02:07  
Ah, where to start? Let me begin by saying that I post not so much in justification of myself but more in order to draw both some order and a conclusion to this discussion.

To BJ, I appreciate your passion for your band. I'm the editor and no matter who, Ms. Dunn or myself, allowed those mistakes, the sincere truth is that the buck stops with me. Thanks for your kind communication since and we wish you and Barcelona the best.

To Matt, while there are many factors involved and you're a super friend, I do agree that a kinder tone would be of more use in your postings at this point. You're better than getting into these squabbles.

To Mary, the bottom line is that you know the communications that we've had and why the things that have transpired have taken place. We respect you as a great person and wish you the best.

To all of us, I pray for some closure to this issue, for love and kindness to be restored, and for some semblance of Christian community to be seen. Name calling and everything else will get us nowhere.
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